I still believe he is a god box entity

Tell me the episodes that have all the plot stuff and would explain it because i dont want to watch 1000s of videos 😢

why was mario reduced from protagonist to deuteragonist

NOTE: Before you get mad at me just remember that this is MY PERSONAL OPINION and i see this post as constructive criticism, and also i don't want to attack Luke and Kevin, i just want to make you understand my personal issues with modern smg4. And also this is a remastered version of a list i made last year on reddit but since i sucked at make arguments at the time, my list ended up being nonsensical so i decided to give actual explanations.

5: Smg3's "RIZZ"

Back in the early days, smg3 served as the main antagonist of the series, and honestly, not only he was my favourite villain of the show, but also he was in my top 5 characters (with Meggy, Mario, Bob and Melony), then the writers decided then it would be much funnier if they say "fuck off" to that and just make him another generic Bob or Swag look-a-like character with cringe-rizz dialouge.

Part of why this is such a problem is because it's hard to see where this change really came from, i mean it was made clear that he had some good traits even when he was a villain back then, but nowdays he is completly good (well, kinda), rather than his personality or at least trying to do something that resemble him from the old days, most of the time is he taking care of his Eggdog.

He went from being the unique active villain of the series to just being a ripoff of Rob of the amazing world of gumball and not even a good one (at least Rob has a personality instead of just being an anti-hero).

He is just so non-menancing and also unfunny with all of those unfunny rizz memes. (Watch CEO of rizz to get what i'm saying). Rizzler Smg3 has to be the most unfunny character i ever saw on Smg4, not even Manchild Mario is THIS bad. SMG4 NEWS is a good example on how he can act evil and funny at the same time like the old times.

Another thing they made with him is he being more attacked on smg4 and say "baka" when he is around..................why? One of the reasons of why the older episodes were so great was because the rivaly between Smg4 and Smg3 worked really well. Now the only time we see them as rivals is because they act like 8 years old brothers.

It was well made back in the genesis arc, where at least he still had his personality, but without one he just turns into a hollow shell of himself.

And also he continue to appear with Smg4 like he is the main character, and that's a problem because if he is so empty as a characters, then it's bad. And also, let me say this: I COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT SMG4 AND SMG3 STUPID BROMANCE, NOBODY ASKED FOR THAT AND IT'S JUST COME AS STALE AND REPETITIVE FOR GOOD SAKE. (i'm not homophobic but goddamn if this thing really piss me off). (Even if i will talk about Smg4 much later).

They made me hate Snowtrapped with all of those references, and considering that the best episodes with smg4 and 3 (and Mario) are from 2016, says a lot.

TRASH FRIENDS is an example on how to piss off every fan who is sick of this ship (outside of all the pointless filler that is in the episode).

Change a character's personality is not a good thing, because that basically mean kill a character and replacing it with another one, and it's even worse when it's out of nowhere like in this case.

PLZ

WREN COULD COME BACK!

(POTENTIAL PTSD FOR MEGGY?!?!?!? YEHAW!!!!!)

MARTY COULD COME BACK!

(Redemption? Cool!)

THE DEMON KEYBORD COULD COME BACK!

(Horror? I'm not scared of that outcome!)

PEACH COULD COME BACK!

(A regal redesign, HUZZAH to that!)

How did I do on the image thing?

The update in the live stream made me realise how SMG4 crew can ACTUALLY making terrifying things.

As it became glitchy, the thumbnail changed

(BTW, the text not in english is czech)

Why do people on the livestream keep thinking that the Puzzlevision movie is WOTFI24

WOTFIs are usually the second half of the year + the last special was a WOTFI

+EVEN IN THE TRAILER WAS SAID THAT IT'S A MOVIE

Go onto the smg4 live stream and go to when the timer says “up next puzzle vision movie: 45:00:00. The screen will start flashing and then every video/trailer past then on seems weird.

He's the only character in it. Well, apart from Mario, but we'll get to that later.

NARRATOR: From the magic within us all, [A clip of SMG4 saying "Are you ready" plays.] to the adventure beyond our wildest dreams. [A clip of Meggy saying "Let's go!" plays.] There is only one Puzzlevision.

I heard this was supposed to be a parody of a Disney ad, so I won't dwell on it too much. However, in the WOTFI 2021 rap, Mario says "Are you ready let's a-go!" which is extremely similar to what the clips say.

A test card plays and turns into another testcard.

TV: And now, ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for:

[The TV grows arms and legs and turns into Mr Puzzles.]

MR PUZZLES: Mister Puzzles! Gracias, merci, [unintelligible], you all look exceptional!

Mr Puzzles can turn into a TV which disproves one of my earlier theories that the gang had bought the TV in NTVMMNOD before then, as he would've had to stay as a TV (kinda hard to do plans when you're immobile) or have no head (disproved by WOTFI 2023).

Mr Puzzles 2: Great to have me on the show. Now tell me about my exciting new business venture.

[The scene zooms out to reveal another Mr Puzzles on a different chair.]

Mr Puzzles 1: Of course, you charming devil you. [He turns to the audience.] As you've just heard I'm ready to expand my episodes globally with a revolutionary new streaming service. I've done... PUZZLEVISION! [Mr Puzzles 2 claps in the background.]

Apparently this is a reference to Hazbin Hotel. This trailer was apparently done inside the simulation as there are two Mr Puzzles's, so unless the movie somehow introduces a (new) company which produces TV Guy's, the simulation is what I'll point to.

Puzzlevision is a streaming service apparently, and he had it engraved on him back in WOTFI 2023. So Puzzlevision is a company which is a streaming service as well.

Mr Puzzles: Your destination for the most thrilling and unforgettable media experiences. [Western Spaghetti and WOTFI 2023 play on TV's in the background.]

I'll stop here because of something really interesting: those movies aren't on the website. What could this mean? No idea.

[Mr Puzzles glitches out to reveal SMG4 inside his head, while the TV's in the background go to a test card.]

SMG4: What's happening. (more frantically) Where am I? WHAT'S GOING ON? [Mr Puzzles bangs his head with his arm, causing his head and the TV's in the background to go static. It then fades to SMG4 inside Mario's Mysteries, while the TV's in the background go back to the test card. Mario pops out of the bottom-left to look around, and quickly ducks again. The camera closes in on Mr Puzzles's head before fading to static.]

There's a lot to go through here. I don't think the TV's in the background mean anything and are probably just an artistic choice. However, this scene reveals that there are... two simulations? This is complicated and I'm compelled to say there's only one simulation some way or another, but I don't think that's the case. Let's get some terminology in place.

The lower simulation is the one in Mr Puzzles's head, where SMG4 seems to be.

The upper simulation is the one this trailer takes place in.

I'm going to analyse what SMG4 says. As a reminder it was:

SMG4: What's happening. (more frantically) Where am I? WHAT'S GOING ON?

SMG4 is seen mainly confused rather than fearful at the first sentence. We have to remember that the upper simulation is probably a WESTERN SPAGHETTI style one, so him getting tranquilised and put inside Mr Puzzles's head is possible. If you think back to Mario's Mysteries though, SMG3, Meggy, and Tari were all inside a black void too, yet they were all actually inside the simulations (Once Upon An SMG4).

I don't know how to build up to this, so my best guess (so far) is the lower simulation isn't real, Mr Puzzles is just seeing where SMG4 is, and he acted on instinct/programming to spy on SMG4 since he was realising, only to remember he was doing a trailer. The fact it goes to Mario's Mysteries is probably him replaying a part from it.

Now to get to a pretty big part. The timeline is:

• Mario gets filled with static in the last episode.

• He punches through the TV, leaving a mark which Mr Puzzles noticed and fixed trying to make everything perfect.

• Now he's spying on Mr Puzzles when the coast is clear.

Mario is definitely gonna be a big part of the next movie, like in all the other movies before this one (especially WESTERN SPAGHETTI).

Mr Puzzles 1: (somberly) I'm going to get real with you for a moment. I'm not at all happy with the ratings of the last few episodes. None of them have hit a full five-star rating, although they obviously should have.

(excited again) SO, what am I gonna do?

[He turns the camera around to Mr Puzzles 2 wearing a wig next to a Wheel of Fortune thingy which says _ N__ M_V__. He spins to the right revealing it to be saying A NEW MOVIE. Mr Puzzles 1 walks toward the camera, next to a big TV.)

Mr Puzzles: That's right. In order to push my ratings to five stars, I'm releasing a SPECIAL movie in 72 hours. Right here! Introducing... PUZZLEVISION!

Most people have figured out he wants high ratings, which gives us some idea that the movie in-universe probably won't go into his backstory or anything. This doesn't have much to talk about.

Mr Puzzles: And let me tell you. Once I reach five stars, nothing will ever be the same again. Good night, everyone.

[He starts laughing evilly. The channel goes back to SMG4.]

SMG4: Someone. Anyone! PLEASE, (pounding Mr Puzzles's head) LET ME OUT OF HERE!

[Mr Puzzles turns the channel back, then places his head on the floor. Mario goes out of hiding once again to look around. Text on the TV screen reads "GO back to the youtube channel... | I'll be waiting..."]

Remember when I said the lower simulation isn't real? Yeah, I was wrong. Turns out he actually is trapped in Mr Puzzles's head. How will this play out in the movie, considering we don't see anyone else trapped in his head. Now I was proven wrong, I'm inclined to say: The upper simulation isn't real, as Mario literally punched himself out the simulation. I don't know how I didn't think of that earlier.

So now there's two possibilities. Either:

The Mr Puzzles we saw in the last videos was a fake one controlled by the real Mr Puzzles.

This one I fully agree with, as it means that Mr Puzzles can't rewind time when he faces off against Mario, making it a fair fight.

Mr Puzzles has the powers in the real world.

That would mean that he literally never rewinded time in any of the SMG4 videos ever, which unless there's a crazy plot twist that he rewinded time to make SMG3 lose the YouTube Arc so WOTFI 2023 could happen, sounds infeasible.

Can someone find the moments where Mario appears in the newest stream and put down the time stamps on the wiki page?